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so can you tell us any update on the uh

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airborne objects identification and

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group otherwise known as the aomsig any

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update on what they're doing

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uh i don't have an update for you on the

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um we're still uh

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uh working uh to uh sufficiently staff

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uh that organization and get them into a

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battle rhythm but i don't have any

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updates for you and i could not hear

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your first question

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give me a comment about

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next week

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congress is going to hold the first

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hearing in 50 years on

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ufos uaps i was wondering if you just

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comment on that since two people from

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uh u.s military gonna be uh testifying

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opportunity here to engage members of

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congress on this very important matter

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i'm not going to get ahead of that

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testimony but

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american people and with members of

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also are doing what we need to do to

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as as many of these uh phenomena have

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of flight so we're looking forward to

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that these might be some kind of uh

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china or russia etc

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legitimate safety of flight concerns

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the department hasn't come to a

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conclusion um uh about what all these

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are what they represent

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that's why we're putting this group

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process here and i know process isn't

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fun uh for you to report on and probably

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what is up everybody uh

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happy

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freaking wednesday

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we got the one and only wednesday friend

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here

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hey what's up

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you got your mid-american cup drink

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because that's a phrase that people say

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gotcha mid-america cup drink um

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it's uh i've got these matching pair of

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old man on the moon apollo 11 classes

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from back in 69. yeah um

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yeah my partner and i yeah we call this

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the fine china you know definitely above

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the regular regular

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wine glasses so right yep right yeah you

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caught me mid america drink i'll take

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that's a beautiful cup i love that so uh

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yesterday yeah so some pretty great news

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um brings and and the information they

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that we can go through as far as the

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questions that people have been asking

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couple people that will be testifying

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time in a long time that uh you know

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this you know whether they're a couple

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witnesses or a lot fact is this is

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intelligence committee yesterday was

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carson's gonna gonna lead it but uh it

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subcommittee led by representative andre

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carson of indiana as i recall yep

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will hold an open hearing on

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unidentified aerial phenomena this will

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the topic and members will push for

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community so you know we already so we

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doing this and we also have the

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open hearing on the topic which seems to

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suggest that this may not be a one and

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this topic that's for sure so would you

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mind telling us a little bit about uh

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the the people who will be testifying

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understanding that the only two people

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nature naval intelligence so these are

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if there's any relation

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to you know gary reed being you know

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gary reid i mean you know one of the

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layer to kind of fold into the debate

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happens is somewhere in between those

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two scenarios

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yeah like the truth right yeah

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you got that person's story that

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person's story and then the truth is

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somewhere in the middle right

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yeah now so one

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oh sure one interesting thing that i

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wanted to that i wanted to mention and

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maybe this can kind of transition over

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into some of the questions

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um

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is that you know we probably when we're

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talking about what happens when people

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are called in front of congress right

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and we've probably we've seen many times

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i'm sure where

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um you know for for larger committees or

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and panels that when you say see a

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potential supreme court justice come up

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or or anybody that's called up that it's

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not just kind of random scatter shot

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questions for the most part you're

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listening to a line of questioning and

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the different people on these committees

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may have their own line of questioning

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and so we may hear

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one thing to think of and keep in mind

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is that we may hear various competing

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lines of questioning

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coming into this situation and they

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might have their own aims their own

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goals that may not quite be cohesive

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right right that i mean they could come

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in like you know with russian ukraine

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you know

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on this that could be a valid thing that

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somebody brings up one of the

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you know one of the people or says

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um you know especially with how you know

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heated

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uh the political parties are with each

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other so

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you never know um it could you know we'd

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like to go in there with our perspective

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and what we'd ask and everything but um

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and and there are certain people i have

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faith will kind of have that uh

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mentality like andre carson

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um

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but other others may not so yeah that's

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that's right and another interesting

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thing that we could probably appreciate

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is that

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curiously when you know when we talk

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about

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you know

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could these ever be adversarial drones

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or could these ever be adversarial craft

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and of course in a small percentage of

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cases um there there's there's always

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the potentiality of drones happening

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right but of course with the ukraine war

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um i think it's pretty clear that russia

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is at a disadvantage when it comes to

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advanced

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weaponry of any sort these days um

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as long as they're not using their nukes

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but one key thing here is that ron

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moultrie

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actually

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his early specialty back in the day what

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he built his career on

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is in russian intelligence

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oh very interesting

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okay

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he he actually speaks russian or he has

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working

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proficiency in russian and in fact he

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got his master of science in strategic

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intelligence and russian studies wow all

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right now now on the other hand scott

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bray

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um is

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his one of his prior jobs was being the

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senior intelligence officer for china

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2008 to 2010 right he was also a us

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defense attache to china and uh before

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that at the office of naval intelligence

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from 2004 to 2007 he was a china subject

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matter expert and deputy senior

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intelligence officer for china so if

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you're so it just so happens that you've

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got one guy that could answer

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uh pretty definitively

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one would think with regard to whether

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these could be chinese and you've got

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another guy who could answer relatively

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definitively about whether they're

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russian or not

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um even so that's kind of a fascinating

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thing to to pull into things as well

389
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and you sir are bringing the heat with

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that information great job that is

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impressive yeah so if if

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you know it

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it's a great

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let's

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you know there's a couple things that

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that i wanted to get off my chest

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about these hearing things the first one

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is

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um you know like drones or quadcopters

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or whatever so if if that's what these

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really were and this was some sort of

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let's hide that information so people

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don't know our vulnerability kind of

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thing right

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um it would be extremely difficult to

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find uh an admission of

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fear for these drones being in our

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airspace online or on a government

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website which you know is not the case

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so if you know i've found multiple

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things about how

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there's a you know a lot of commercial

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drones are being bought more and more

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all the time and they're in our

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commercial air space and it's hard to

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keep track of them and you know getting

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in and out of the airlines uh pathways

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and all that kind of stuff that's easy

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to find on government websites so if

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that was the case this would be a very

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right

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so i just wanted to throw that out there

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in the in the second thing is um

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you know some people whether it be on

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you know twitter or or elsewhere

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um negative nancies uh as far as the

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congressional hearings they're gonna say

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the same stuff they're not gonna tell

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you anything

430
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like let's just get real for a quick

431
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second all right this has never happened

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since nineteen

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right even if it's a complete hogwash

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it's still the first time since

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1968. that is a huge step forward so

436
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it's time to take your glass that is

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half empty

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pour it out

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get some water

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put it in there call it half full

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and get a different perspective and look

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at this because that is freaking

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amazing and if you study the history of

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congressional records i have a couple

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documents here if we have time we'll get

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into it but

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you know starting in 1958

448
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what

449
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you know there was congressional inquiry

450
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on project blue book special report

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number 14

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and you know people trying to see that

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they can't see it you know

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eventually it comes out it runs up from

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1960 61 to 62 of public hearings

456
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they get out of it the air force gets

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out of it you know they they talk the

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committee out of it um and and they wind

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up not doing it

460
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years later finally something happens in

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1968 you know and

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and now all this time and and here we

463
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are again you know sometimes it's it's

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good to just take a deep breath and

465
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realize like where we are now and stop

466
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thinking about what could happen

467
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or even what has happened like i was

468
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just talking about and just be in the

469
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now right because everything else is

470
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imagined your future your past just live

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in the present so

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uh yeah i just wanted to say that for a

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little optimism for people too because

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um you never know what tomorrow's gonna

475
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bring we have no idea what the hearings

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could bring

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a lot of things have happened in the

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last few years that i know a for a fact

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whether you're a og ufologist or a new

480
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person a lot of things have happened

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that nobody thought would

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whether they're small big or not to you

483
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they're still

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new and unexpected so

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just wanted to say that too so i i think

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that's a really good point it's a really

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good perspective i mean you know i was

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negative 10 years old the last time this

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happened right led zeppelin was born

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created and died in that amount of time

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so is disco and all sorts of other

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things you know

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um the whole whole waves of ufology you

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know there are so many researchers that

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came into

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researched for the the extent maybe of

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their adult life and and are gone now

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in between the last time that this

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happened now and so this is this is

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extraordinarily momentous it's it's it

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can't it can hardly be overstated and

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especially if we're looking at this as

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as

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not potentially not being a one-and-done

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scenario this is this is right

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this has the the ability to really kind

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of

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make the

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quite a bit more so i'm very hopeful

510
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yeah i'm very hopeful

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um now i guess

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let's

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gentlemen

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sure but you specifically

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okay

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you know they call on representative

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king

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do you have any questions from mr

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moultrie though what do you what are you

520
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gonna ask you got all this history you

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got everything within the last four

522
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years being you know what do you start

523
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with what do you ask you know to

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actually get an answer

525
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sure um i think that one i don't

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to frame things from the outset i think

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that it would probably be

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important to kind of cast a wide net and

529
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then get more particular with a line of

530
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questioning it's great to see john

531
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davies here by the way he and i were

532
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chatting beforehand and he had he had

533
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some

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information

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um now one thing that he was talking

536
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about was uncorrelated targets with me

537
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and i think that that's really important

538
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to bring up you know this is we're

539
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talking about uaps but of course they've

540
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been referred to as ufos another term

541
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that uh that places like norad

542
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used was uct uncorrelated targets so and

543
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of course you know this i'm sure that

544
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there are plenty of other people in the

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audience that here today that do as well

546
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but you know along those lines i think

547
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one thing that i would start with to try

548
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to cast it wide and then get a little

549
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bit more particular to get some

550
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definitive answers out of people

551
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as a setup would be

552
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um

553
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okay

554
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along with uap

555
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what other terms have been used to

556
00:21:05,830 --> 00:21:04,400
relate to this phenomenon right right

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and then

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if uct is not brought up because we know

559
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there are a lot of cases that have been

560
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that have been that have been classified

561
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as ect

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was uct also a term used was

563
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uncorrelated targets also a term used

564
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okay then amongst all of these terms

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rough estimate how many cases are we

566
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talking about historically

567
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then if they claim not to know

568
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we could go in with is it more than a

569
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hundred is it more than a thousand is it

570
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more than ten thousand to get a rough

571
00:21:40,950 --> 00:21:39,600
estimate there and then and then ask

572
00:21:43,350 --> 00:21:40,960
perhaps

573
00:21:46,230 --> 00:21:43,360
along with that line of questioning

574
00:21:50,310 --> 00:21:46,240
when was the first

575
00:21:52,710 --> 00:21:50,320
we know in our military

576
00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:52,720
and are and have these has this number

577
00:21:57,590 --> 00:21:54,720
of cases been relatively evenly

578
00:21:59,830 --> 00:21:57,600
distributed amongst those years

579
00:22:01,590 --> 00:21:59,840
because after that as we know a lot of

580
00:22:03,909 --> 00:22:01,600
other questions can can kind of

581
00:22:04,669 --> 00:22:03,919
naturally get answered because if they

582
00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:04,679
say

583
00:22:08,390 --> 00:22:06,240
1917

584
00:22:10,710 --> 00:22:08,400
right then then

585
00:22:12,549 --> 00:22:10,720
there are a lot of questions about drone

586
00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:12,559
technology and things like that can kind

587
00:22:17,430 --> 00:22:13,200
of

588
00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:17,440
degree initially

589
00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:19,840
um beautiful i love that

590
00:22:23,750 --> 00:22:21,600
yeah they do especially kind of

591
00:22:25,750 --> 00:22:23,760
unpacking the different names because

592
00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:25,760
you know over the years it's clear that

593
00:22:29,909 --> 00:22:28,240
you know things have become so confused

594
00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:29,919
with the different acronyms used whether

595
00:22:36,390 --> 00:22:34,080
it be ufo uap uso uh you know all all

596
00:22:38,789 --> 00:22:36,400
different things um so i think that's

597
00:22:40,630 --> 00:22:38,799
pretty great i think that's great and

598
00:22:42,549 --> 00:22:40,640
then kind of trying to yeah gauge

599
00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:42,559
numbers wise i think that's awesome and

600
00:22:46,310 --> 00:22:43,600
no red

601
00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:46,320
um obviously is has been involved with

602
00:22:49,990 --> 00:22:47,919
this stuff even in the blue book files

603
00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:50,000
they're all they're all over the place

604
00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:52,559
uh no red with this stuff so

605
00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:54,960
i think that's great in the you know you

606
00:22:59,430 --> 00:22:56,880
can even go into things like are we

607
00:23:03,270 --> 00:22:59,440
still you know effectively using

608
00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:03,280
something like jan epp 146 which was how

609
00:23:07,510 --> 00:23:04,480
um

610
00:23:08,549 --> 00:23:07,520
norad reported ufos that was their ufo

611
00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:08,559
report

612
00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:10,720
you know and that's something that they

613
00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:12,400
are forced to work together with them on

614
00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:13,840
you know is that something we're still

615
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:15,360
utilizing

616
00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:17,760
um on unidentified objects one thing i

617
00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:19,360
would definitely ask it and i would

618
00:23:23,270 --> 00:23:20,799
preface it with

619
00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:23,280
you know congress congressman rosh yeah

620
00:23:26,549 --> 00:23:25,120
congressman all right listen sir you

621
00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:26,559
know that first thank you for your time

622
00:23:30,070 --> 00:23:28,480
all right i really do appreciate it it's

623
00:23:32,549 --> 00:23:30,080
a lot going on in the world but you know

624
00:23:34,470 --> 00:23:32,559
as we all know this is very important

625
00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:34,480
um i did a little research and it

626
00:23:38,070 --> 00:23:36,240
doesn't take much for me to do that you

627
00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:38,080
know google's a great tool

628
00:23:41,110 --> 00:23:39,120
um but

629
00:23:43,669 --> 00:23:41,120
i found something called uh lockheed

630
00:23:45,110 --> 00:23:43,679
martin's uh space fence right and

631
00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:45,120
apparently it can track something the

632
00:23:49,830 --> 00:23:47,520
size of a softball from outer space you

633
00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:49,840
know and i think that's fantastic you

634
00:23:54,789 --> 00:23:52,400
know the more uh you know tech savvy the

635
00:23:57,750 --> 00:23:54,799
world gets the more we're going to rely

636
00:24:00,230 --> 00:23:57,760
on that sort of capability correct so

637
00:24:02,830 --> 00:24:00,240
you would agree right oh yeah yeah yeah

638
00:24:06,070 --> 00:24:02,840
i would agree yeah so

639
00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:06,080
um with that being said knowing

640
00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:08,080
that we have the best military in the

641
00:24:13,029 --> 00:24:10,559
world best tracking capabilities in the

642
00:24:16,230 --> 00:24:13,039
world have we ever tracked

643
00:24:18,789 --> 00:24:16,240
anything that remains unidentified

644
00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:18,799
to this day from outer space into our

645
00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:22,950
um

646
00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:24,960
well no i can't say it would that be

647
00:24:30,390 --> 00:24:27,840
classified and if so why

648
00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:30,400
you know um

649
00:24:34,630 --> 00:24:32,880
next question would be have we ever

650
00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:34,640
tracked anything that came out of the

651
00:24:41,590 --> 00:24:39,430
into our airspace

652
00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:41,600
have we ever tracked anything that came

653
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:49,029
into outer space back into our space

654
00:24:53,750 --> 00:24:51,360
or vice versa

655
00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:53,760
yeah that's that's good just keeping it

656
00:24:58,070 --> 00:24:55,440
that simple

657
00:25:00,070 --> 00:24:58,080
it's not classified that's not you can't

658
00:25:02,470 --> 00:25:00,080
say that's classified to tell me if

659
00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:02,480
that's happened or not

660
00:25:05,350 --> 00:25:03,440
you know

661
00:25:07,029 --> 00:25:05,360
you're not one thing you're not using

662
00:25:09,269 --> 00:25:07,039
you're not telling me the technology

663
00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:09,279
you're not telling me anything about it

664
00:25:13,669 --> 00:25:11,360
other than if something like that has

665
00:25:16,789 --> 00:25:13,679
been tracked you know

666
00:25:20,549 --> 00:25:19,110
that's that's something

667
00:25:22,390 --> 00:25:20,559
that i would do and then i think it'd be

668
00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:22,400
important to nail

669
00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:23,840
nail on

670
00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:25,120
um

671
00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:27,679
foreign technology right i think that

672
00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:28,480
would be

673
00:25:36,870 --> 00:25:34,880
you know what do you think a

674
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:36,880
repercussion would be or what would it

675
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:38,880
look like if we

676
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:41,440
found a

677
00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:43,200
uh china uh

678
00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:45,279
stealth drone in the middle of one of

679
00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:47,600
our training exercises what typically is

680
00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:50,480
the protocol for something like that

681
00:25:53,669 --> 00:25:52,320
and see what they say

682
00:25:55,350 --> 00:25:53,679
you know

683
00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:55,360
um and you can kind of take their

684
00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:56,640
answers from that

685
00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:58,080
[Music]

686
00:26:02,549 --> 00:25:59,760
to go a little further okay so when

687
00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:02,559
these uaps come through are we doing the

688
00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:04,400
same type of routine

689
00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:06,480
are we treating these differently from a

690
00:26:09,830 --> 00:26:08,000
scenario like that

691
00:26:11,430 --> 00:26:09,840
you know just to kind of separate the

692
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:11,440
two

693
00:26:15,269 --> 00:26:14,240
because i think that would be important

694
00:26:17,909 --> 00:26:15,279
but

695
00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:17,919
absolutely i mean i think coming out of

696
00:26:22,870 --> 00:26:20,480
the water into orbit like that

697
00:26:25,269 --> 00:26:22,880
i i i really appreciate that that is

698
00:26:28,149 --> 00:26:25,279
kind of the flip in a way of what chris

699
00:26:30,470 --> 00:26:28,159
millen suggested as a first preliminary

700
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:30,480
question uh yesterday you know he

701
00:26:35,029 --> 00:26:32,400
tweeted one of the critical questions

702
00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:35,039
for the upcoming house uap hearing is do

703
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:36,640
we have evidence of intelligently

704
00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:39,360
controlled unknowns in orbit or in space

705
00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:41,279
and you're and you're going along those

706
00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:44,480
lines but you know but go but it's just

707
00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:46,640
it's just as valid to ask it from the

708
00:26:51,350 --> 00:26:49,679
other way around and especially

709
00:26:53,909 --> 00:26:51,360
you're kind of

710
00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:53,919
qu your rather

711
00:26:59,190 --> 00:26:56,000
particular question about water into

712
00:27:00,070 --> 00:26:59,200
orbit and back is i think that that

713
00:27:02,470 --> 00:27:00,080
that's

714
00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:02,480
very very good in terms of what it could

715
00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:04,720
imply you know yeah right and you don't

716
00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:06,480
even have to throw the intelligent part

717
00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:08,080
in there at that point like at that

718
00:27:11,909 --> 00:27:09,600
point if it's able to do that it's like

719
00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:15,830
you know it must be but yeah um

720
00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:17,520
you know it'll be interesting there's so

721
00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:19,200
many different things you could ask you

722
00:27:24,789 --> 00:27:21,039
know yeah along those lines you could

723
00:27:27,909 --> 00:27:24,799
also ask you know it would be it'd be

724
00:27:29,909 --> 00:27:27,919
pretty amazing to hear an answer to

725
00:27:32,710 --> 00:27:29,919
have we ever tracked a landing

726
00:27:33,669 --> 00:27:32,720
right correct or or how often do these

727
00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:33,679
things

728
00:27:37,510 --> 00:27:35,600
you know come down to the ground like

729
00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:37,520
how much does that happen i think that

730
00:27:41,269 --> 00:27:39,600
that's you know ever since the days of

731
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:41,279
john keel that's been something that's

732
00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:43,440
been kind of complained about

733
00:27:48,310 --> 00:27:46,480
you know in terms of of they're not just

734
00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:48,320
they're not just always 10 000 feet in

735
00:27:53,269 --> 00:27:50,240
the air you know and right

736
00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:53,279
it's important to kind of get past i

737
00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:55,039
think you know this

738
00:27:59,350 --> 00:27:56,559
it's one of the things that i talk about

739
00:28:01,350 --> 00:27:59,360
most i think is is we need to get out of

740
00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:01,360
the just the cockpit

741
00:28:05,510 --> 00:28:03,600
videos and and get down to talking about

742
00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:05,520
what happens when these things

743
00:28:09,029 --> 00:28:07,760
get you know close close to the earth

744
00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:09,039
itself right

745
00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:10,880
yeah i mean and with

746
00:28:14,389 --> 00:28:12,399
one of the reasons some of those

747
00:28:16,389 --> 00:28:14,399
biological effects you know you never

748
00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:16,399
know could have been put in the news is

749
00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:18,080
as a

750
00:28:22,149 --> 00:28:20,399
a little a string to grab on for a

751
00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:22,159
hearing like this you know we've all

752
00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:23,679
seen in the news these biological

753
00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:25,200
effects

754
00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:27,600
you know from uaps and ufos

755
00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:29,279
you know how often are these things

756
00:28:33,029 --> 00:28:30,960
being reported by our pilots these

757
00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:33,039
effects when they encounter uap

758
00:28:35,909 --> 00:28:33,760
you know

759
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:35,919
it's a great question right there you

760
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:38,240
know oh absolutely that's a great

761
00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:39,840
question you know they could definitely

762
00:28:44,549 --> 00:28:41,919
you know

763
00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:44,559
the fact that the physical effects

764
00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:47,120
the kit green physical effects dirt

765
00:28:52,149 --> 00:28:49,840
um did make it into the press

766
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:52,159
you know they're not uaps what are what

767
00:28:55,269 --> 00:28:54,080
kind of anomalous vehicles are causing

768
00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:55,279
this to our

769
00:28:57,190 --> 00:28:56,320
pilots

770
00:28:59,110 --> 00:28:57,200
you know

771
00:29:00,789 --> 00:28:59,120
what would that be even that could be a

772
00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:00,799
perfectly great line of questioning

773
00:29:07,350 --> 00:29:03,919
because it again it would hint at or or

774
00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:07,360
directly imply something about how close

775
00:29:12,549 --> 00:29:09,520
contact can be right

776
00:29:14,470 --> 00:29:12,559
which has always been kind of a closely

777
00:29:17,350 --> 00:29:14,480
guarded and navigated

778
00:29:19,909 --> 00:29:17,360
um a point that that people often don't

779
00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:19,919
want to go on record about you know even

780
00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:20,720
even

781
00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:22,880
former officials of the pentagon and

782
00:29:27,750 --> 00:29:25,200
elsewhere have have a hard time you know

783
00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:27,760
using the a word and things like that

784
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:29,520
with regard to this stuff

785
00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:30,480
totally

786
00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:32,880
yeah um

787
00:29:36,389 --> 00:29:34,480
something i thought

788
00:29:38,549 --> 00:29:36,399
was interesting right now there's a

789
00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:38,559
little play back and forth on

790
00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:41,039
unidentified aerial phenomenon an

791
00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:43,039
unidentified aerial vehicle if you

792
00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:44,159
notice that

793
00:29:47,110 --> 00:29:45,520
there's a little back and forth what do

794
00:29:49,110 --> 00:29:47,120
you think that's about

795
00:29:50,950 --> 00:29:49,120
i think that that's really interesting

796
00:29:51,909 --> 00:29:50,960
you know um

797
00:29:53,590 --> 00:29:51,919
and

798
00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:53,600
i am curious

799
00:29:56,389 --> 00:29:54,640
you know

800
00:29:59,190 --> 00:29:56,399
could that just be

801
00:30:00,789 --> 00:29:59,200
a continuation of the shell game that

802
00:30:02,710 --> 00:30:00,799
you've been

803
00:30:05,590 --> 00:30:02,720
so successfully highlighting for the

804
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:05,600
last year on the show you know is that

805
00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:08,320
part of it um and then there's also the

806
00:30:11,669 --> 00:30:09,760
part that again

807
00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:11,679
keel valet

808
00:30:15,350 --> 00:30:12,960
you know

809
00:30:18,070 --> 00:30:15,360
kehoe many other people historically

810
00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:18,080
over time have pointed out as being a

811
00:30:22,789 --> 00:30:20,320
very valid thing which is that you know

812
00:30:25,110 --> 00:30:22,799
sometimes when people look at what seems

813
00:30:27,430 --> 00:30:25,120
to be an intelligently controlled object

814
00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:27,440
in the sky it seems to have like a

815
00:30:32,470 --> 00:30:29,520
plasma bubble around it or for lack of a

816
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:32,480
better term or something that looks like

817
00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:36,480
a a ball of light possibly surrounding

818
00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:38,960
a craft people have even said in certain

819
00:30:42,870 --> 00:30:40,799
situations that if they looked through

820
00:30:46,389 --> 00:30:42,880
night vision goggles or through other

821
00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:46,399
through other situations that what was

822
00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:47,840
a light ball

823
00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:50,000
may actually be reduced down to looking

824
00:30:54,149 --> 00:30:51,840
like being able to see more of a

825
00:30:56,230 --> 00:30:54,159
concrete form within that

826
00:30:59,110 --> 00:30:56,240
now at the same time there's stuff like

827
00:31:01,909 --> 00:30:59,120
ball lightning right there's there's all

828
00:31:03,830 --> 00:31:01,919
sorts of amorphous types of sky

829
00:31:06,669 --> 00:31:03,840
phenomena that have also been reported

830
00:31:09,909 --> 00:31:06,679
where people almost see like almost like

831
00:31:11,509 --> 00:31:09,919
bioluminescent jellyfish looking looking

832
00:31:12,789 --> 00:31:11,519
shapes that show up in the sky every

833
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:12,799
once in a while and this goes back

834
00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:13,840
decades

835
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:16,000
and it's weird and it's bizarre but is

836
00:31:21,029 --> 00:31:18,720
that biology is it just a species that

837
00:31:22,710 --> 00:31:21,039
we don't know yet right so you know

838
00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:22,720
there's there's kind of plenty that can

839
00:31:27,029 --> 00:31:25,679
be in there between phenomena and

840
00:31:28,389 --> 00:31:27,039
vehicles

841
00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:28,399
yeah and totally

842
00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:30,640
right completely especially if the

843
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:32,399
vehicle is uh

844
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:35,600
you know a biological one

845
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:37,760
yeah yeah i mean

846
00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:38,640
right

847
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:40,880
yeah i mean maybe you know that could be

848
00:31:45,509 --> 00:31:43,120
a really amazingly

849
00:31:46,389 --> 00:31:45,519
smart way to navigate around a question

850
00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:46,399
is that

851
00:31:49,269 --> 00:31:48,320
as if if you knew some of these craft

852
00:31:54,549 --> 00:31:49,279
were

853
00:31:55,350 --> 00:31:54,559
like upgraded biology

854
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:55,360
yeah

855
00:32:00,230 --> 00:31:57,840
or you know then then

856
00:32:02,789 --> 00:32:00,240
then you could get somebody to sincerely

857
00:32:04,389 --> 00:32:02,799
answer a no to a question that that you

858
00:32:06,310 --> 00:32:04,399
wouldn't skate around

859
00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:06,320
that's yeah you just go straight up to

860
00:32:10,389 --> 00:32:09,120
him and go mr moultrie

861
00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:10,399
yeah

862
00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:19,760
so sarah i'm sure you've seen the whole

863
00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:22,000
but one thing you could ask somebody too

864
00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:22,799
is

865
00:32:26,789 --> 00:32:25,120
um you know if

866
00:32:29,430 --> 00:32:26,799
have you ever heard of

867
00:32:32,630 --> 00:32:29,440
louis elizondo and if so uh what do you

868
00:32:35,909 --> 00:32:32,640
know about his role within the ousdi

869
00:32:38,310 --> 00:32:35,919
investigating uh uap

870
00:32:40,149 --> 00:32:38,320
absolutely i mean i've heard rumors that

871
00:32:41,350 --> 00:32:40,159
he's i don't know if that he's confirmed

872
00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:41,360
this but i've heard rumors that he's

873
00:32:44,149 --> 00:32:43,360
going to be in town next week

874
00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:44,159
so

875
00:32:48,789 --> 00:32:45,840
you know for all we know he's going to

876
00:32:50,230 --> 00:32:48,799
be in the room if not testifying himself

877
00:32:51,830 --> 00:32:50,240
so because right don't we want to know

878
00:32:55,269 --> 00:32:51,840
about that too like so much has been

879
00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:55,279
hidden about awesome and atip right and

880
00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:56,480
and whatever

881
00:32:58,470 --> 00:32:57,360
but

882
00:33:01,669 --> 00:32:58,480
you know

883
00:33:04,230 --> 00:33:01,679
like even when the the dni put

884
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:04,240
uh the offset papers on their website

885
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:07,120
under unidentified aerial phenomenon

886
00:33:11,269 --> 00:33:09,600
and then totally backed out of it and

887
00:33:14,389 --> 00:33:11,279
changed course

888
00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:14,399
and uploaded a tip uh tab and put them

889
00:33:18,149 --> 00:33:15,600
in there like

890
00:33:21,590 --> 00:33:18,159
and susan galbian caught

891
00:33:22,549 --> 00:33:21,600
lying to us through through statements

892
00:33:24,070 --> 00:33:22,559
um

893
00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:24,080
you know maybe bending the truth you

894
00:33:27,909 --> 00:33:26,000
could say or whatever it wants to be

895
00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:27,919
play on words whatever it is

896
00:33:34,549 --> 00:33:30,960
like she's been playing games and that's

897
00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:34,559
that is totally valid um

898
00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:36,320
you know worry and thing that could be

899
00:33:41,509 --> 00:33:39,600
addressed i think as as far as like

900
00:33:44,549 --> 00:33:41,519
you know people taxpayers

901
00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:44,559
uh pay you guys to do your jobs and this

902
00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:46,799
is how you're treating people and um

903
00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:48,880
treating the community and i think it

904
00:33:53,190 --> 00:33:50,720
would be behoove you not to set the

905
00:33:56,070 --> 00:33:53,200
record straight on on what actually

906
00:33:57,590 --> 00:33:56,080
uh happened and exactly how it looked

907
00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:57,600
you know

908
00:33:59,750 --> 00:33:58,880
absolutely

909
00:34:01,750 --> 00:33:59,760
i mean

910
00:34:03,909 --> 00:34:01,760
you know along those lines

911
00:34:05,750 --> 00:34:03,919
we talk about the shell game of these

912
00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:05,760
terms and this in the shell game that

913
00:34:10,710 --> 00:34:07,360
often happens where there's this kind of

914
00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:10,720
misdirected element in terms of of the

915
00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:12,560
convenient

916
00:34:18,149 --> 00:34:15,760
mess of classification systems right

917
00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:18,159
and at the same time

918
00:34:22,230 --> 00:34:19,440
there's also

919
00:34:24,629 --> 00:34:22,240
the the kind of cat with a laser pointer

920
00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:24,639
effect that you could say has been

921
00:34:29,829 --> 00:34:27,040
happening within the last four and a

922
00:34:32,550 --> 00:34:29,839
half years with regard to osap and atip

923
00:34:35,030 --> 00:34:32,560
right as fascinating as those programs

924
00:34:36,389 --> 00:34:35,040
are they're certainly not the only ones

925
00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:36,399
and that's one of the reasons why this

926
00:34:40,869 --> 00:34:38,320
new office has been made is to to

927
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:40,879
collate and try to to to to make some

928
00:34:44,069 --> 00:34:43,040
kind of central clearinghouse right

929
00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:44,079
right so

930
00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:44,960
so

931
00:34:50,790 --> 00:34:47,040
i mean it would be really really

932
00:34:52,470 --> 00:34:50,800
interesting to to just try to get a

933
00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:52,480
basic list

934
00:34:57,109 --> 00:34:54,320
off of these two gentlemen moultrie and

935
00:35:00,390 --> 00:34:57,119
bray for you know what

936
00:35:02,630 --> 00:35:00,400
you have this new aoi msg office

937
00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:02,640
where you know where

938
00:35:08,630 --> 00:35:06,240
if it's not completely on the road yet

939
00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:08,640
which it seems like it's not it seems

940
00:35:11,750 --> 00:35:10,160
like they've had hype maybe they've had

941
00:35:13,109 --> 00:35:11,760
hiring problems

942
00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:13,119
right there's been

943
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:15,200
you know things like this and so if

944
00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:16,960
that's the case if if the wheels aren't

945
00:35:21,750 --> 00:35:18,800
completely on the road yet

946
00:35:23,589 --> 00:35:21,760
what is their goal for like where are

947
00:35:25,829 --> 00:35:23,599
they collating from

948
00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:25,839
you know give us give us the kinds of

949
00:35:30,470 --> 00:35:27,839
give us the a-tips that exist now

950
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:30,480
between between places like maybe nasa

951
00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:32,400
you know what i mean for the air force

952
00:35:36,630 --> 00:35:34,640
wherever you know places that that have

953
00:35:39,589 --> 00:35:36,640
been trying to kind of like

954
00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:39,599
keep behind closed doors for a long time

955
00:35:44,069 --> 00:35:41,760
that get the gary reed thing again you

956
00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:44,079
know the gary reed guy gets in trouble

957
00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:45,200
and then

958
00:35:49,990 --> 00:35:46,880
there's

959
00:35:51,910 --> 00:35:50,000
classified listings for jobs

960
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:51,920
in the office he was supposed to be you

961
00:35:54,630 --> 00:35:53,680
know looking over

962
00:35:56,310 --> 00:35:54,640
it's

963
00:35:58,850 --> 00:35:56,320
you know what what i could kind of see

964
00:36:00,230 --> 00:35:58,860
happening a little bit is um

965
00:36:02,630 --> 00:36:00,240
[Music]

966
00:36:05,030 --> 00:36:02,640
uh they have

967
00:36:06,550 --> 00:36:05,040
they have a couple excuses to pull from

968
00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:06,560
if they want

969
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:08,800
you know and they've set that up nicely

970
00:36:12,069 --> 00:36:10,240
for themselves

971
00:36:13,829 --> 00:36:12,079
you know as you can see uh we're trying

972
00:36:15,349 --> 00:36:13,839
to hire people for the office we're not

973
00:36:17,109 --> 00:36:15,359
fully staffed and they're already

974
00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:17,119
hitting that like kirby said that in

975
00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:19,200
this press conference you know we're not

976
00:36:23,270 --> 00:36:21,119
fully staffed we're trying to do this

977
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:23,280
you know so you know what i would say is

978
00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:25,440
let me get this straight so you you took

979
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:28,240
the prerogative away from congress

980
00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:30,720
you know and and put this together uh by

981
00:36:35,030 --> 00:36:32,800
yourself within the dod

982
00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:35,040
and you still don't have the process put

983
00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:37,040
together is that correct sir

984
00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:38,640
you know

985
00:36:41,589 --> 00:36:40,240
so

986
00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:41,599
you know

987
00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:43,200
where do you get off doing that if you

988
00:36:48,310 --> 00:36:46,800
can't do the job correctly and timely

989
00:36:49,589 --> 00:36:48,320
you know it's like

990
00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:49,599
um

991
00:36:55,510 --> 00:36:51,920
when can we expect everything to be

992
00:36:57,109 --> 00:36:55,520
fully staffed you know but i would even

993
00:36:58,550 --> 00:36:57,119
you know depending on how things go i

994
00:37:00,950 --> 00:36:58,560
would even stay away from those

995
00:37:03,030 --> 00:37:00,960
questions because you know

996
00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:03,040
that they're just uh planted excuses

997
00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:04,720
more or less so

998
00:37:09,829 --> 00:37:06,720
just go for questions where they can't

999
00:37:11,510 --> 00:37:09,839
use that as a scapegoat so to speak you

1000
00:37:15,030 --> 00:37:11,520
know

1001
00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:15,040
yeah i i i agree i mean again like i i i

1002
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:16,320
want to

1003
00:37:21,190 --> 00:37:18,720
believe that moultrie and bray will be

1004
00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:21,200
coming there from with the position of

1005
00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:23,599
of being forthright within

1006
00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:25,920
within their security oaths and things

1007
00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:27,040
like this

1008
00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:29,760
and and at the same time

1009
00:37:32,470 --> 00:37:30,960
good for you

1010
00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:32,480
you know

1011
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:34,320
and at the same time and i also want to

1012
00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:36,640
believe that the congressmen are coming

1013
00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:39,119
and and women of congress are coming at

1014
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:39,920
this

1015
00:37:42,310 --> 00:37:40,800
um

1016
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:42,320
with

1017
00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:44,560
truly wanting to to highlight

1018
00:37:48,950 --> 00:37:46,960
transparency issues and bring more out

1019
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:48,960
and you know this is

1020
00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:51,280
this is a popular issue i think that

1021
00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:53,440
that has been correctly highlighted by

1022
00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:55,760
people in congress that this is this is

1023
00:38:00,630 --> 00:37:57,839
a situation where

1024
00:38:02,870 --> 00:38:00,640
they conveniently are not this is one of

1025
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:02,880
the few issues kind of in washington

1026
00:38:07,109 --> 00:38:05,520
where they're conveniently

1027
00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:07,119
not at fault

1028
00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:10,000
and it by any kind in most respects you

1029
00:38:13,349 --> 00:38:11,680
know what i mean like most contemporary

1030
00:38:15,030 --> 00:38:13,359
congress people will be like well i

1031
00:38:18,310 --> 00:38:15,040
didn't you know this i didn't make this

1032
00:38:20,630 --> 00:38:18,320
bed seven years ago right etc etc true

1033
00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:20,640
you know and so if if we're talking

1034
00:38:25,990 --> 00:38:23,680
about transparency issues

1035
00:38:27,670 --> 00:38:26,000
you know it could be there could be it's

1036
00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:27,680
important to remember kind of what

1037
00:38:31,270 --> 00:38:29,520
you're hinting at here is that there's

1038
00:38:34,069 --> 00:38:31,280
probably going to be some political

1039
00:38:35,190 --> 00:38:34,079
theater occurring in this hearing right

1040
00:38:37,109 --> 00:38:35,200
yeah

1041
00:38:38,220 --> 00:38:37,119
listen do you guys think this stuff is

1042
00:38:40,710 --> 00:38:38,230
the devil

1043
00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:40,720
[Laughter]

1044
00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:43,280
is it the devil or is it not the devil

1045
00:38:47,829 --> 00:38:45,680
yeah no but you guys say it v you got to

1046
00:38:49,349 --> 00:38:47,839
turn the v to a beat devil

1047
00:38:50,950 --> 00:38:49,359
devil

1048
00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:50,960
listen mr poultry is this thing the

1049
00:39:01,589 --> 00:38:56,150
okay when we're talking about craft are

1050
00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:04,630
like mars attacks crafter yeah we're

1051
00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:06,320
talking mars we're talking venus what

1052
00:39:09,990 --> 00:39:08,160
are we talking about here i do think

1053
00:39:12,550 --> 00:39:10,000
it's interesting oh first of all over in

1054
00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:12,560
the chat i'm i'm just looking over for

1055
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:14,160
questions and i know that we've

1056
00:39:17,190 --> 00:39:15,839
collected some great questions from

1057
00:39:18,950 --> 00:39:17,200
people on twitter

1058
00:39:21,589 --> 00:39:18,960
we also we also have some great

1059
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:21,599
questions over over here on the chat one

1060
00:39:25,829 --> 00:39:23,200
thing that i do want to highlight first

1061
00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:25,839
is that uh uh

1062
00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:28,400
folks were hearing about um the reports

1063
00:39:32,390 --> 00:39:30,240
of jellyfish looking stuff in the sky

1064
00:39:34,710 --> 00:39:32,400
going back decades and by the way that's

1065
00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:34,720
not me keel talked about it over four

1066
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:36,640
years ago you made that up you texted me

1067
00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:38,640
before the draw do you mind if i make up

1068
00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:40,240
something about jellyfish in this guy

1069
00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:42,480
nope nope it's it's an operation trojan

1070
00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:45,359
horse i swear i have it right here um we

1071
00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:47,920
read that one that's right that's right

1072
00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:50,960
but um but uh jelly bird folks in the

1073
00:39:54,470 --> 00:39:52,800
chat have decided that jelly bird should

1074
00:39:56,630 --> 00:39:54,480
be the name of that and i think it's as

1075
00:39:58,230 --> 00:39:56,640
good as any term and it's pretty cute

1076
00:39:59,990 --> 00:39:58,240
you know it sounds like it could be the

1077
00:40:01,910 --> 00:40:00,000
name of like a semi-professional sports

1078
00:40:04,710 --> 00:40:01,920
team too which is kind of fun

1079
00:40:06,790 --> 00:40:04,720
billy brown's san jose jelly birds

1080
00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:06,800
yeah and john davies and some others

1081
00:40:09,589 --> 00:40:07,680
were

1082
00:40:12,309 --> 00:40:09,599
bringing up the idea of just bringing up

1083
00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:12,319
the idea of retrievals or crashes yeah

1084
00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:13,839
and and

1085
00:40:19,270 --> 00:40:16,560
boy would i love that is that a day one

1086
00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:19,280
thing that could happen i mean

1087
00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:21,520
that's that's like first date before you

1088
00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:23,040
say anything you're grabbing her head

1089
00:40:27,270 --> 00:40:25,599
and going for the french kiss i don't

1090
00:40:28,950 --> 00:40:27,280
know

1091
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:28,960
yeah it could be challenging yeah i

1092
00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:30,480
don't i don't know if we go for that on

1093
00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:32,000
the first day but

1094
00:40:36,069 --> 00:40:34,079
i mean i wouldn't discourage it

1095
00:40:38,790 --> 00:40:36,079
certainly

1096
00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:38,800
depends if you got like three hours

1097
00:40:43,990 --> 00:40:41,200
while of course you know you've got like

1098
00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:44,000
15 minutes yeah

1099
00:40:47,670 --> 00:40:46,000
yeah i don't know but maybe but a

1100
00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:47,680
well-timed

1101
00:40:52,230 --> 00:40:49,920
you know there is the the part where we

1102
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:52,240
did learn from ralph and leslie as well

1103
00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:54,480
back in one of the older times articles

1104
00:40:59,430 --> 00:40:57,200
that they that members of congress and

1105
00:41:03,349 --> 00:40:59,440
staffers had been briefed on the

1106
00:41:04,150 --> 00:41:03,359
potentiality of of retrievals of craft

1107
00:41:07,829 --> 00:41:04,160
not

1108
00:41:09,270 --> 00:41:07,839
world right yeah

1109
00:41:11,589 --> 00:41:09,280
um so

1110
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:11,599
and the idea that eric davis may have

1111
00:41:14,230 --> 00:41:13,200
been part of that right

1112
00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:14,240
so

1113
00:41:17,510 --> 00:41:16,000
maybe there could be a well-informed

1114
00:41:19,349 --> 00:41:17,520
question in there that's phrased in a

1115
00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:19,359
way that's not betraying

1116
00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:21,440
um the confidential nature of some of

1117
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:23,760
those briefings it's possible

1118
00:41:28,550 --> 00:41:26,160
just let's you know i would say let's

1119
00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:28,560
just cut the crap do we have alien

1120
00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:30,240
technology or not

1121
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:32,160
yeah and then you gotta bang your hands

1122
00:41:35,349 --> 00:41:33,280
and then it's important to bang your

1123
00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:35,359
hand on the table too right and i'm not

1124
00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:38,319
talking about humans outside from not

1125
00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:40,400
from the u.s all right i'm talking about

1126
00:41:43,030 --> 00:41:41,440
up there

1127
00:41:44,390 --> 00:41:43,040
we're down there

1128
00:41:48,309 --> 00:41:44,400
just tell us

1129
00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:48,319
rip it off like a freaking band-aid like

1130
00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:49,440
right off

1131
00:41:53,510 --> 00:41:50,960
i'm still

1132
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:53,520
speaking of alien technology

1133
00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:55,680
uh just just to switch it up a little

1134
00:42:01,589 --> 00:41:58,400
bit sure um and this isn't alien

1135
00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:01,599
technology really but

1136
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:03,599
it is pretty interesting this is

1137
00:42:09,750 --> 00:42:06,160
actually from

1138
00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:09,760
this picture was taken by nasa on mars

1139
00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:11,280
oh yeah

1140
00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:13,680
yeah i saw a few people um talking about

1141
00:42:19,030 --> 00:42:16,240
that yesterday it's really interesting i

1142
00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:19,040
mean it's like a freaking cave bro

1143
00:42:24,309 --> 00:42:21,440
yeah well not only that it looks i mean

1144
00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:24,319
it it it is a pretty sheer face

1145
00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:26,560
if you if you close in on it and and

1146
00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:27,440
then

1147
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:29,680
and so it does definitely have doorway

1148
00:42:34,150 --> 00:42:31,680
like

1149
00:42:35,910 --> 00:42:34,160
looks to it now is that pareidolia you

1150
00:42:37,990 --> 00:42:35,920
know i don't know what the size and the

1151
00:42:39,990 --> 00:42:38,000
scale of this image is

1152
00:42:41,829 --> 00:42:40,000
and you know how great that is though

1153
00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:41,839
like that's clean cut

1154
00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:44,319
i know in the top and the other side

1155
00:42:48,550 --> 00:42:46,000
it's definitely

1156
00:42:49,589 --> 00:42:48,560
i mean i would definitely want to see

1157
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:49,599
that

1158
00:42:55,030 --> 00:42:52,800
from different angles you know

1159
00:42:57,270 --> 00:42:55,040
i would i would definitely want to think

1160
00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:57,280
no i would want to see the real rover

1161
00:43:02,309 --> 00:42:59,119
it's probably

1162
00:43:03,270 --> 00:43:02,319
a martian giants space store that's all

1163
00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:03,280
i wanted

1164
00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:05,760
yeah it's probably a portal

1165
00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:08,240
you probably you walk in there and then

1166
00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:09,040
you

1167
00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:10,240
appear

1168
00:43:14,470 --> 00:43:12,400
under catalina island like right next to

1169
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:14,480
the base that's probably what

1170
00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:16,240
i don't know but i would love to see

1171
00:43:20,069 --> 00:43:17,839
this from other angles for sure and i'd

1172
00:43:23,190 --> 00:43:20,079
love to know the scale because you know

1173
00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:23,200
is that six inches is that 60 feet i

1174
00:43:28,870 --> 00:43:27,200
just don't know what she said um

1175
00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:28,880
we don't get the chance to do this very

1176
00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:30,960
often but you know in the end when we

1177
00:43:35,060 --> 00:43:32,480
look at something like this the one

1178
00:43:39,190 --> 00:43:35,070
thing that comes to my head is just

1179
00:43:39,190 --> 00:43:39,200
[Music]

1180
00:43:42,309 --> 00:43:41,270
right i mean

1181
00:43:48,380 --> 00:43:42,319
that's my

1182
00:43:49,910 --> 00:43:48,390
first what the heck is that

1183
00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:49,920
[Laughter]

1184
00:43:55,030 --> 00:43:53,200
and i love it man yeah what well

1185
00:43:57,030 --> 00:43:55,040
yeah what the heck is it

1186
00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:57,040
all right man i don't know

1187
00:44:02,069 --> 00:43:58,880
we're rocking today i'm on my fourth

1188
00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:02,079
shot of espresso i'm getting all right

1189
00:44:06,630 --> 00:44:04,319
that's the one thing about driving you

1190
00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:06,640
don't smoke weed so that's what you got

1191
00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:08,400
right yeah yeah

1192
00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:09,839
i smoke

1193
00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:11,520
teed

1194
00:44:14,470 --> 00:44:12,640
it's uh

1195
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:14,480
it's a different kind of weed

1196
00:44:19,349 --> 00:44:15,760
right on

1197
00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:19,359
yeah where it's just pure liquid thc

1198
00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:21,280
i'm just kidding

1199
00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:23,760
all right man i i used to i missed that

1200
00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:26,560
stuff so bad but i'm glad i don't

1201
00:44:30,309 --> 00:44:28,240
all right

1202
00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:30,319
because i dream now too first of all and

1203
00:44:35,030 --> 00:44:32,800
my dreams are getting nuts

1204
00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:35,040
yeah mine have been pretty wild lately

1205
00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:36,960
too we we're gonna have to do another

1206
00:44:40,870 --> 00:44:39,200
dream dive sometime soon

1207
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:40,880
let's see what do we got here all right

1208
00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:43,680
carl anderson science is religion oh oh

1209
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:45,040
you know jefferson's was really

1210
00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:47,200
interesting oh we can do carl's first if

1211
00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:48,160
you'd like

1212
00:44:51,190 --> 00:44:48,960
yeah

1213
00:44:54,470 --> 00:44:51,200
um for this one or that one or this one

1214
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:54,480
see how fast you can read them oh boy

1215
00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:55,920
no

1216
00:44:58,790 --> 00:44:56,880
okay

1217
00:45:00,390 --> 00:44:58,800
why is witness testimony enough to take

1218
00:45:03,109 --> 00:45:00,400
a person's freedom away in court of law

1219
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:03,119
yet testimony corroborative sensor data

1220
00:45:07,990 --> 00:45:05,440
okay why the reluctance to openly admit

1221
00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:08,000
this is a non-human intelligence

1222
00:45:10,630 --> 00:45:08,880
well

1223
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:10,640
yeah that's an i mean it's an

1224
00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:12,160
interesting question with regard to

1225
00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:14,880
testimony i mean that you know i'd

1226
00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:16,560
almost

1227
00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:21,119
really talk about that maybe you know

1228
00:45:25,430 --> 00:45:23,440
this got a point

1229
00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:25,440
i mean i think it's but especially if

1230
00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:27,040
you look at it

1231
00:45:33,030 --> 00:45:28,960
from all the years combined right it's a

1232
00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:33,040
harder case to make if it's just one um

1233
00:45:37,589 --> 00:45:34,800
encounter or one episode where there's

1234
00:45:39,990 --> 00:45:37,599
one or two witnesses or whatever

1235
00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:40,000
to me it still isn't especially when you

1236
00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:42,400
have uh it you know when you have like

1237
00:45:47,109 --> 00:45:44,640
backup like radar or whatever camera

1238
00:45:49,589 --> 00:45:47,119
footage or whatever that you know

1239
00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:49,599
goes together with each other but

1240
00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:50,560
um

1241
00:45:54,069 --> 00:45:52,160
you know in this instance and what we're

1242
00:45:56,390 --> 00:45:54,079
going for you know you got to come with

1243
00:45:59,510 --> 00:45:56,400
your strongest muscles possible right so

1244
00:46:00,790 --> 00:45:59,520
but if you go with all the witness

1245
00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:00,800
testimony

1246
00:46:06,309 --> 00:46:03,280
dating back to 47 and if i was those

1247
00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:06,319
congressmen i would have a freaking list

1248
00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:09,680
of every military encounter since that

1249
00:46:13,589 --> 00:46:11,440
time

1250
00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:13,599
here we go we have 300

1251
00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:17,280
350 400 military testimonies of

1252
00:46:21,790 --> 00:46:20,880
unidentified objects right

1253
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:21,800
what are these

1254
00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:24,400
[Laughter]

1255
00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:25,680
whatever it is

1256
00:46:29,190 --> 00:46:27,440
and that would come with the old cia

1257
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:29,200
docs too talking about

1258
00:46:34,950 --> 00:46:31,440
you know how we knew back in

1259
00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:34,960
50 51 52 that these things were around

1260
00:46:39,829 --> 00:46:37,680
our sensitive uh sites you know like

1261
00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:39,839
nuclear bases and stuff sure

1262
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:41,760
why is it taking so long to get to get

1263
00:46:45,510 --> 00:46:43,200
this going i realize you haven't been

1264
00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:45,520
there that long but can you identify a

1265
00:46:48,630 --> 00:46:46,960
pattern that has brought us to this

1266
00:46:49,750 --> 00:46:48,640
point to where it hasn't been taken care

1267
00:46:51,030 --> 00:46:49,760
of

1268
00:46:52,630 --> 00:46:51,040
but

1269
00:46:54,550 --> 00:46:52,640
absolutely people really should come in

1270
00:46:56,069 --> 00:46:54,560
with the blue book cases in mind you

1271
00:46:57,670 --> 00:46:56,079
know people could even start briefing

1272
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:57,680
themselves with things like leslie

1273
00:47:01,750 --> 00:46:59,520
kane's ufos pilots generals go on the

1274
00:47:03,190 --> 00:47:01,760
record you know

1275
00:47:05,990 --> 00:47:03,200
books like that that have been that are

1276
00:47:07,829 --> 00:47:06,000
kind of more commonly accepted as as

1277
00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:07,839
as having some real weight to them for

1278
00:47:10,870 --> 00:47:09,359
sure you know because the other thing

1279
00:47:13,510 --> 00:47:10,880
you can think of too is with these

1280
00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:13,520
hearings you're also making

1281
00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:15,520
you know you're also making a case to

1282
00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:17,760
the public of what the reality of the

1283
00:47:22,790 --> 00:47:21,359
situation is you know so if i'm

1284
00:47:25,750 --> 00:47:22,800
you know

1285
00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:25,760
really concerned uh person like carson

1286
00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:27,040
seems to be

1287
00:47:31,109 --> 00:47:29,040
like and i want the public to take this

1288
00:47:33,109 --> 00:47:31,119
seriously which would in turn reduce

1289
00:47:34,870 --> 00:47:33,119
stigma for pilots and other reporting

1290
00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:34,880
systems right

1291
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:36,240
yep like

1292
00:47:41,109 --> 00:47:38,400
banging that drum of historical

1293
00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:41,119
precedence that absolutely no idea

1294
00:47:44,549 --> 00:47:42,240
exists

1295
00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:44,559
absolutely what goes so far

1296
00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:46,240
um yeah you like this question you said

1297
00:47:51,670 --> 00:47:48,640
mr jefferson lee most obvious question

1298
00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:51,680
would have to do with uh are these uap

1299
00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:53,599
being tracked coming in and out of uh

1300
00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:55,680
low earth orbit yeah and he sells it out

1301
00:48:00,150 --> 00:47:57,839
for us too in case we don't know

1302
00:48:01,349 --> 00:48:00,160
i appreciate that jefferson

1303
00:48:03,109 --> 00:48:01,359
and uh

1304
00:48:05,109 --> 00:48:03,119
are they coming from space if the answer

1305
00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:05,119
is a yes implications are huge and space

1306
00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:06,880
force is automatically involved and

1307
00:48:10,069 --> 00:48:08,640
that's a good point here too jefferson i

1308
00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:10,079
mean this goes back to one of the

1309
00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:10,960
earlier

1310
00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:12,800
what you were mentioning sean and what

1311
00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:14,800
chris millen would like asked as well in

1312
00:48:20,950 --> 00:48:17,760
terms of coming in and out of orbit and

1313
00:48:23,589 --> 00:48:20,960
and things like that and um

1314
00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:23,599
and it's also important to remember

1315
00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:26,640
space force and and contextualizing that

1316
00:48:32,390 --> 00:48:29,920
in terms of of of the larger picture

1317
00:48:34,710 --> 00:48:32,400
you know there it would it would be

1318
00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:34,720
really important i think given that

1319
00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:35,520
that's

1320
00:48:41,270 --> 00:48:38,640
essentially a new relatively autonomous

1321
00:48:43,270 --> 00:48:41,280
branch of the military to have a brief

1322
00:48:45,190 --> 00:48:43,280
line of questioning about how that's

1323
00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:45,200
being contextualized

1324
00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:47,200
with regard to reports

1325
00:48:51,670 --> 00:48:49,760
um with with a new test with the new

1326
00:48:53,829 --> 00:48:51,680
group and in the pentagon in general

1327
00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:53,839
that seems incredibly important

1328
00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:55,680
especially since one of the big space

1329
00:49:00,549 --> 00:48:56,880
force

1330
00:49:03,270 --> 00:49:00,559
bases is is right there along with norad

1331
00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:03,280
you know that like that area of colorado

1332
00:49:06,549 --> 00:49:04,559
i can't remember the name of that base

1333
00:49:07,829 --> 00:49:06,559
off the top of my head but you know it

1334
00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:07,839
it turned it

1335
00:49:13,030 --> 00:49:10,079
became a space force branch rather than

1336
00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:13,040
an air force branch so anyway

1337
00:49:20,150 --> 00:49:16,640
and you can't lie like their album is

1338
00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:21,670
and what's up with that

1339
00:49:25,430 --> 00:49:23,040
what's up with that

1340
00:49:27,670 --> 00:49:25,440
and also also to jefferson lee in case

1341
00:49:29,990 --> 00:49:27,680
he's watching um i think he's about to

1342
00:49:33,030 --> 00:49:30,000
have his seventh kid i met him at uh oh

1343
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:33,040
wow i know right and uh

1344
00:49:37,589 --> 00:49:35,280
i met him at the conference down in

1345
00:49:40,870 --> 00:49:37,599
houston and he is a really delightful

1346
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:40,880
guy a great human being so uh props and

1347
00:49:47,430 --> 00:49:44,400
congratulations to jefferson and his his

1348
00:49:51,030 --> 00:49:47,440
uh his brood and yeah and his wonderful

1349
00:49:52,390 --> 00:49:51,040
kids good good dude um

1350
00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:52,400
no this is

1351
00:49:56,870 --> 00:49:54,400
you know zach i would say is uh kind of

1352
00:49:59,109 --> 00:49:56,880
more on the skeptic i'm sick of the bs

1353
00:50:01,829 --> 00:49:59,119
kind of side so this is a good sure

1354
00:50:03,829 --> 00:50:01,839
perspective from that do we have

1355
00:50:05,990 --> 00:50:03,839
definitive data ruling out our own tech

1356
00:50:08,309 --> 00:50:06,000
foreign tech uh that points to something

1357
00:50:09,910 --> 00:50:08,319
unambiguously weird if no ought we'd be

1358
00:50:12,309 --> 00:50:09,920
playing this game with the public and i

1359
00:50:14,470 --> 00:50:12,319
think that's i really appreciate that

1360
00:50:16,309 --> 00:50:14,480
part of the question if no one would be

1361
00:50:18,790 --> 00:50:16,319
playing this game with the public

1362
00:50:20,069 --> 00:50:18,800
and and just

1363
00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:20,079
you know just

1364
00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:22,000
all together ought we be playing this

1365
00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:23,920
game with the public

1366
00:50:27,270 --> 00:50:25,359
first of all

1367
00:50:29,430 --> 00:50:27,280
art is an underused

1368
00:50:31,750 --> 00:50:29,440
word i've said that before yeah

1369
00:50:33,750 --> 00:50:31,760
you know like so

1370
00:50:36,790 --> 00:50:33,760
zack i appreciate it for that if nothing

1371
00:50:39,670 --> 00:50:36,800
else like a guy from the 50s here oh we

1372
00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:39,680
be playing this with art we i thought

1373
00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:41,440
you know donald rumsfeld used that word

1374
00:50:46,950 --> 00:50:43,920
a lot art i've looked through

1375
00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:46,960
ufo stuff and he was always saying a lot

1376
00:50:51,750 --> 00:50:48,000
interesting

1377
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:51,760
you know i wonder what connection

1378
00:51:00,630 --> 00:50:58,549
if yes must that remain the domain of

1379
00:51:02,790 --> 00:51:00,640
the military or can we bring in outside

1380
00:51:04,870 --> 00:51:02,800
scientists and to study this now that i

1381
00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:04,880
think is a very important part of the

1382
00:51:09,589 --> 00:51:07,040
question as well or part of the

1383
00:51:11,270 --> 00:51:09,599
important framing you know and that gets

1384
00:51:13,670 --> 00:51:11,280
out another question which might be you

1385
00:51:15,910 --> 00:51:13,680
know for another day of hearings which

1386
00:51:17,589 --> 00:51:15,920
is how has the national labs and the

1387
00:51:19,829 --> 00:51:17,599
department of energy been involved in

1388
00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:19,839
this because according to many people

1389
00:51:23,190 --> 00:51:21,440
that's where a lot more of the

1390
00:51:24,710 --> 00:51:23,200
scientific study of some of this

1391
00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:24,720
material

1392
00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:26,640
has been happening you know whether it's

1393
00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:28,640
owned but overseen by patel whether

1394
00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:29,920
we're talking about

1395
00:51:34,069 --> 00:51:31,520
you know any of the other kind of

1396
00:51:36,470 --> 00:51:34,079
contractors it'd be it'd be really

1397
00:51:38,150 --> 00:51:36,480
fascinating to know what could be said

1398
00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:38,160
that way and of course we're just going

1399
00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:39,359
to assume that there are a lot of

1400
00:51:43,270 --> 00:51:40,559
answers

1401
00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:43,280
um that that will be refused or can't

1402
00:51:46,950 --> 00:51:45,280
can't be answered for for reasons of

1403
00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:46,960
national security but

1404
00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:48,640
it doesn't hurt to ask the question

1405
00:51:51,829 --> 00:51:50,079
anyway right

1406
00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:51,839
they should definitely have somebody

1407
00:51:55,990 --> 00:51:54,480
like uh in the corner of the hearings

1408
00:51:57,589 --> 00:51:56,000
with the microphone

1409
00:51:59,910 --> 00:51:57,599
that uh

1410
00:52:05,030 --> 00:51:59,920
their only job is to interrupt sometimes

1411
00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:07,349
or just uh or just maybe what the heck

1412
00:52:12,309 --> 00:52:09,839
was that you know they could

1413
00:52:15,270 --> 00:52:12,319
interject with a quick video grab what

1414
00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:15,280
the heck is that that's [\h__\h] yeah

1415
00:52:18,710 --> 00:52:16,960
all right if you have developed an

1416
00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:18,720
opinion as to what intention these

1417
00:52:24,230 --> 00:52:21,760
non-human or breakaway race races have

1418
00:52:25,910 --> 00:52:24,240
what is it and what led you to form the

1419
00:52:30,630 --> 00:52:25,920
spinning

1420
00:52:32,710 --> 00:52:30,640
yeah i mean obviously great question um

1421
00:52:34,309 --> 00:52:32,720
will they go there this is where we want

1422
00:52:35,349 --> 00:52:34,319
it to go right

1423
00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:35,359
yep

1424
00:52:39,030 --> 00:52:37,200
um but

1425
00:52:41,030 --> 00:52:39,040
there it seems like other things have to

1426
00:52:41,829 --> 00:52:41,040
be established first it seems like that

1427
00:52:43,109 --> 00:52:41,839
way

1428
00:52:44,790 --> 00:52:43,119
you know

1429
00:52:46,230 --> 00:52:44,800
that

1430
00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:46,240
more than half of the country probably

1431
00:52:49,990 --> 00:52:48,720
still doesn't even believe in ufos

1432
00:52:52,630 --> 00:52:50,000
you know yeah

1433
00:52:54,950 --> 00:52:52,640
but well hopefully hopefully

1434
00:52:55,910 --> 00:52:54,960
there we get a few things on record here

1435
00:52:57,190 --> 00:52:55,920
you know

1436
00:53:02,390 --> 00:52:57,200
a couple

1437
00:53:06,069 --> 00:53:02,400
carefully

1438
00:53:07,750 --> 00:53:06,079
constructed questions

1439
00:53:10,150 --> 00:53:07,760
could lead to some

1440
00:53:12,069 --> 00:53:10,160
pretty definitive and earth-shattering

1441
00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:12,079
answers

1442
00:53:14,549 --> 00:53:12,960
so

1443
00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:14,559
let's keep exploring these questions

1444
00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:16,480
this is great thanks herman paven that's

1445
00:53:19,510 --> 00:53:18,240
awesome

1446
00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:19,520
looks like she

1447
00:53:23,190 --> 00:53:21,280
i'm not going to get into that all right

1448
00:53:24,870 --> 00:53:23,200
trevor butler

1449
00:53:26,390 --> 00:53:24,880
were materials recovered from a crash in

1450
00:53:27,430 --> 00:53:26,400
roswell and where they have unknown

1451
00:53:29,109 --> 00:53:27,440
origin

1452
00:53:31,349 --> 00:53:29,119
it's a great question and i mean that

1453
00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:31,359
would be it would definitely

1454
00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:32,800
that's the kind of

1455
00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:34,640
very sharp

1456
00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:36,480
and short question

1457
00:53:41,349 --> 00:53:38,640
that uh that could really lead the

1458
00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:41,359
evening news um you know that would

1459
00:53:44,390 --> 00:53:43,440
definitely grab people's attention for

1460
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:44,400
sure

1461
00:53:48,549 --> 00:53:46,800
they have an out they have an excuse you

1462
00:53:51,030 --> 00:53:48,559
know well i'm sure we're all familiar

1463
00:53:52,390 --> 00:53:51,040
with the roswell report

1464
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:52,400
you know that

1465
00:53:55,589 --> 00:53:54,240
who gives a crap put together for the

1466
00:53:59,190 --> 00:53:55,599
air force

1467
00:54:00,390 --> 00:53:59,200
you know so i refer you to that sir

1468
00:54:02,630 --> 00:54:00,400
yeah yep

1469
00:54:04,630 --> 00:54:02,640
absolutely thanks trevor that was a

1470
00:54:07,109 --> 00:54:04,640
great question

1471
00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:07,119
let's see dave gillam let's see why

1472
00:54:12,309 --> 00:54:09,040
can't videos media with no reason to be

1473
00:54:14,390 --> 00:54:12,319
classified like source methods locations

1474
00:54:16,710 --> 00:54:14,400
be shared with the us public is it

1475
00:54:19,190 --> 00:54:16,720
classified for any other reason other

1476
00:54:21,030 --> 00:54:19,200
than hiding that this is most likely

1477
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:21,040
non-human technology

1478
00:54:25,030 --> 00:54:23,200
it's a great question dave i mean the

1479
00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:25,040
one you know this has been a popular

1480
00:54:30,069 --> 00:54:27,680
question lately online because of some

1481
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:30,079
redacted documents that i think john

1482
00:54:32,549 --> 00:54:31,680
greenwald um

1483
00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:32,559
uh

1484
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:37,520
month ago or two months ago and people

1485
00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:40,240
were laughing about how

1486
00:54:45,190 --> 00:54:42,880
the shapes of the craft were were

1487
00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:45,200
redacted like they like the shape the

1488
00:54:49,030 --> 00:54:46,960
shapes of the craft weren't even a lot

1489
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:49,040
those were blacked out and people were

1490
00:54:53,270 --> 00:54:51,440
complaining about like okay so we're at

1491
00:54:55,829 --> 00:54:53,280
the point of over

1492
00:54:58,549 --> 00:54:55,839
of under transparency where we can't

1493
00:55:01,670 --> 00:54:58,559
even talk about what the shapes are now

1494
00:55:04,230 --> 00:55:01,680
one you know counter to that is

1495
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:04,240
that there could be

1496
00:55:09,750 --> 00:55:06,400
uh shapes that

1497
00:55:11,109 --> 00:55:09,760
we have quote unquote we not me or you

1498
00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:11,119
but maybe somebody over at wright

1499
00:55:15,910 --> 00:55:12,559
patterson air force base or something

1500
00:55:19,990 --> 00:55:15,920
like that um or groom lake might have in

1501
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:20,000
terms of experimental tech or or or a

1502
00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:23,040
classified piece of technology you know

1503
00:55:27,750 --> 00:55:25,040
for example what in the public

1504
00:55:30,309 --> 00:55:27,760
imagination could be like the triangle

1505
00:55:32,309 --> 00:55:30,319
of the tr-3b that is that is kind of

1506
00:55:35,109 --> 00:55:32,319
commonly referenced even though that's

1507
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:35,119
probably not the actual name of a craft

1508
00:55:40,789 --> 00:55:37,440
that that could be in existence if it

1509
00:55:41,670 --> 00:55:40,799
was it definitely is not now

1510
00:55:46,150 --> 00:55:41,680
yeah

1511
00:55:47,270 --> 00:55:46,160
but hopefully that's

1512
00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:47,280
steve

1513
00:55:51,829 --> 00:55:49,760
you know it'd be cool if like that it

1514
00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:51,839
was at least you know the name of the

1515
00:55:55,910 --> 00:55:54,160
informal name of a watering hole on

1516
00:55:57,910 --> 00:55:55,920
wright patterson campus or something

1517
00:56:00,150 --> 00:55:57,920
like that that would be pretty dope

1518
00:56:01,990 --> 00:56:00,160
you know kind of a 19th hole scenario

1519
00:56:02,950 --> 00:56:02,000
but um you know what do you think about

1520
00:56:04,630 --> 00:56:02,960
this

1521
00:56:06,180 --> 00:56:04,640
yeah well i was just going to say

1522
00:56:07,349 --> 00:56:06,190
locations um

1523
00:56:08,789 --> 00:56:07,359
[Music]

1524
00:56:15,430 --> 00:56:08,799
it's

1525
00:56:17,750 --> 00:56:15,440
classification and once you share one

1526
00:56:18,789 --> 00:56:17,760
like you're turning on the faucet you

1527
00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:18,799
would think

1528
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:21,119
like um

1529
00:56:24,950 --> 00:56:22,960
because then you've determined you know

1530
00:56:27,270 --> 00:56:24,960
this you think this could have happened

1531
00:56:29,510 --> 00:56:27,280
you know back when the first navy videos

1532
00:56:31,270 --> 00:56:29,520
got uh released although that wasn't

1533
00:56:32,789 --> 00:56:31,280
like officially

1534
00:56:34,789 --> 00:56:32,799
all right we're the government and we're

1535
00:56:35,510 --> 00:56:34,799
giving you these videos you know there

1536
00:56:39,990 --> 00:56:35,520
was

1537
00:56:43,190 --> 00:56:40,000
first time they release videos a

1538
00:56:45,910 --> 00:56:43,200
bonafide ufo uap video official release

1539
00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:45,920
from the government like here it is

1540
00:56:52,069 --> 00:56:49,200
like then then it's just like

1541
00:56:53,430 --> 00:56:52,079
you know all hell breaks loose so maybe

1542
00:56:54,470 --> 00:56:53,440
you know there's some thinking behind

1543
00:56:56,829 --> 00:56:54,480
the scenes of how that could

1544
00:56:59,349 --> 00:56:56,839
appropriately be done

1545
00:57:01,750 --> 00:56:59,359
um along with information another thing

1546
00:57:03,190 --> 00:57:01,760
is you know like this a lot of this i

1547
00:57:05,430 --> 00:57:03,200
feel like is they they don't want to

1548
00:57:06,309 --> 00:57:05,440
talk about something they can't explain

1549
00:57:07,750 --> 00:57:06,319
you know

1550
00:57:10,950 --> 00:57:07,760
and and

1551
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:10,960
the more videos that come out and the

1552
00:57:13,750 --> 00:57:12,960
you know along with no answers about

1553
00:57:16,309 --> 00:57:13,760
them

1554
00:57:18,309 --> 00:57:16,319
is just a national security threat in

1555
00:57:19,910 --> 00:57:18,319
general to them that's how they see it

1556
00:57:24,789 --> 00:57:19,920
so

1557
00:57:25,910 --> 00:57:24,799
over in the chat too did you want to go

1558
00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:25,920
through a couple more of these twitter

1559
00:57:29,750 --> 00:57:27,760
ones and it would be kind of fun to

1560
00:57:32,069 --> 00:57:29,760
yeah if you have a little time to maybe

1561
00:57:33,589 --> 00:57:32,079
sure address a couple of those too we'll

1562
00:57:35,670 --> 00:57:33,599
go with john's here

1563
00:57:37,910 --> 00:57:35,680
sure when will we get details on the

1564
00:57:39,430 --> 00:57:37,920
non-human satellites in orbit and what

1565
00:57:41,030 --> 00:57:39,440
are they tracking

1566
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:41,040
man you just get really right to the

1567
00:57:50,150 --> 00:57:46,440
i have no answer for you sir

1568
00:57:52,150 --> 00:57:50,160
[Laughter]

1569
00:57:54,150 --> 00:57:52,160
no but absolutely and you know there's i

1570
00:57:57,109 --> 00:57:54,160
mean there's there's a lot of there's a

1571
00:57:58,710 --> 00:57:57,119
lot of history there in terms of of

1572
00:58:00,630 --> 00:57:58,720
tracking with space fence like what

1573
00:58:02,549 --> 00:58:00,640
you're talking about before there's

1574
00:58:05,109 --> 00:58:02,559
um i think was called project saint back

1575
00:58:08,230 --> 00:58:05,119
in the 60s and 70s there was also kind

1576
00:58:10,710 --> 00:58:08,240
of a preliminary version of of tracking

1577
00:58:13,030 --> 00:58:10,720
um the kind of fast walker type

1578
00:58:14,870 --> 00:58:13,040
scenarios yeah yeah it's a racetrack

1579
00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:14,880
they had spacecraft which went hand in

1580
00:58:18,069 --> 00:58:16,880
hand with moon dust

1581
00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:18,079
um

1582
00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:19,680
you know spacetrack they they actually

1583
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:22,000
check space track data for you know like

1584
00:58:27,430 --> 00:58:24,880
when ufos were reported to see whether

1585
00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:27,440
it was um um

1586
00:58:29,990 --> 00:58:28,720
uh like a

1587
00:58:36,789 --> 00:58:30,000
can't

1588
00:58:38,630 --> 00:58:36,799
remember which one but i would have to

1589
00:58:39,990 --> 00:58:38,640
imagine it was russia's satellite

1590
00:58:40,730 --> 00:58:40,000
probably or both

1591
00:58:42,069 --> 00:58:40,740
but um

1592
00:58:44,069 --> 00:58:42,079
[Music]

1593
00:58:46,390 --> 00:58:44,079
you know so they've been tracking stuff

1594
00:58:47,510 --> 00:58:46,400
for for a while and and i would have to

1595
00:58:49,190 --> 00:58:47,520
believe that

1596
00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:49,200
you know they've come across some

1597
00:58:54,549 --> 00:58:51,760
unidentified objects with that equipment

1598
00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:54,559
that they have not shared you know

1599
00:58:58,870 --> 00:58:56,000
absolutely

1600
00:59:00,710 --> 00:58:58,880
you know we've um again also along the

1601
00:59:02,870 --> 00:59:00,720
line of what john was just asking he's

1602
00:59:04,309 --> 00:59:02,880
also in the chat right now

1603
00:59:06,150 --> 00:59:04,319
and he says questions about the air

1604
00:59:08,309 --> 00:59:06,160
force's total disappearance on the topic

1605
00:59:10,630 --> 00:59:08,319
should be asked and of course

1606
00:59:13,109 --> 00:59:10,640
absolutely and of course sean wrote a

1607
00:59:15,430 --> 00:59:13,119
really great um article in the

1608
00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:15,440
liberation times a few months back

1609
00:59:18,309 --> 00:59:17,200
covering exactly that

1610
00:59:21,510 --> 00:59:18,319
um sure

1611
00:59:23,750 --> 00:59:21,520
love that article and um

1612
00:59:25,750 --> 00:59:23,760
you know you're my good buddy but

1613
00:59:27,990 --> 00:59:25,760
uh and not just because i really admire

1614
00:59:29,990 --> 00:59:28,000
chris sharp but um i think that that was

1615
00:59:31,589 --> 00:59:30,000
incredibly relevant you know it's an

1616
00:59:33,829 --> 00:59:31,599
important part of the topic that

1617
00:59:35,589 --> 00:59:33,839
actually brings me before we go to some

1618
00:59:37,750 --> 00:59:35,599
chat questions that brings me to what i

1619
00:59:38,710 --> 00:59:37,760
feel like is the most important

1620
00:59:41,270 --> 00:59:38,720
um

1621
00:59:43,190 --> 00:59:41,280
uh representation of the air force's

1622
00:59:45,430 --> 00:59:43,200
efforts to elude congressional hearings

1623
00:59:47,349 --> 00:59:45,440
in the past and why it's an even more

1624
00:59:50,630 --> 00:59:47,359
relevant question today is why is the

1625
00:59:53,109 --> 00:59:50,640
air force uh absent this is uh from porn

1626
00:59:55,190 --> 00:59:53,119
technology division uh dated 14th of

1627
00:59:57,190 --> 00:59:55,200
july 1961

1628
00:59:59,109 --> 00:59:57,200
uh general pierce

1629
01:00:01,270 --> 00:59:59,119
um this is in regards to congressional

1630
01:00:03,430 --> 01:00:01,280
hearings and you can see bullet point

1631
01:00:05,190 --> 01:00:03,440
number three here uh

1632
01:00:07,670 --> 01:00:05,200
the present efforts are directed toward

1633
01:00:09,990 --> 01:00:07,680
heading off the investigation

1634
01:00:13,109 --> 01:00:10,000
or if it is stuker having it take place

1635
01:00:16,309 --> 01:00:13,119
in d.c with heinek consulting the ufo

1636
01:00:18,390 --> 01:00:16,319
program so basically what uh edward wynn

1637
01:00:19,990 --> 01:00:18,400
here is saying is deputy for science and

1638
01:00:21,670 --> 01:00:20,000
components for the united states air

1639
01:00:22,950 --> 01:00:21,680
force which is interesting to think

1640
01:00:25,109 --> 01:00:22,960
about

1641
01:00:27,109 --> 01:00:25,119
um

1642
01:00:28,950 --> 01:00:27,119
absolutely and i think that

1643
01:00:31,910 --> 01:00:28,960
and i think that that's a typo isn't it

1644
01:00:34,230 --> 01:00:31,920
robert friend rather than robert firend

1645
01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:34,240
if i'm not mistaken under heinek i think

1646
01:00:38,630 --> 01:00:36,240
that guy's name was robert friend if i'm

1647
01:00:40,630 --> 01:00:38,640
not mistaken

1648
01:00:42,549 --> 01:00:40,640
yeah yeah i always remember that just

1649
01:00:44,309 --> 01:00:42,559
because i always love the idea of major

1650
01:00:45,829 --> 01:00:44,319
friends that's so cute you know what i

1651
01:00:47,589 --> 01:00:45,839
mean major bread

1652
01:00:49,270 --> 01:00:47,599
major friend sounds like something that

1653
01:00:50,789 --> 01:00:49,280
would show up under my christmas tree

1654
01:00:53,349 --> 01:00:50,799
when i was seven you know what i mean

1655
01:00:55,430 --> 01:00:53,359
nice i got major friends

1656
01:00:57,109 --> 01:00:55,440
they probably they probably thought that

1657
01:00:59,190 --> 01:00:57,119
would help them escape congressional

1658
01:01:01,829 --> 01:00:59,200
hearings we just

1659
01:01:05,109 --> 01:01:01,839
don't you're not going to mess with

1660
01:01:07,270 --> 01:01:05,119
who is major friend are you

1661
01:01:08,630 --> 01:01:07,280
see this and see this is this is one of

1662
01:01:09,670 --> 01:01:08,640
the reasons why

1663
01:01:11,430 --> 01:01:09,680
uh

1664
01:01:13,030 --> 01:01:11,440
why our pairing in the show works in

1665
01:01:14,230 --> 01:01:13,040
general is that we can make deep cut

1666
01:01:17,750 --> 01:01:14,240
references

1667
01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:17,760
to people like major friend and uh

1668
01:01:21,990 --> 01:01:19,119
and it's not the first time that it's

1669
01:01:23,990 --> 01:01:22,000
come up in our minds um we've got some

1670
01:01:26,870 --> 01:01:24,000
we've got some great material over here

1671
01:01:29,670 --> 01:01:26,880
robert coford had a real good deep quite

1672
01:01:32,309 --> 01:01:29,680
deep cut question i saw

1673
01:01:34,069 --> 01:01:32,319
and it was about where is that do you

1674
01:01:37,030 --> 01:01:34,079
know why journal

1675
01:01:39,349 --> 01:01:37,040
general carl spots declared an emergency

1676
01:01:41,349 --> 01:01:39,359
in march of 1948.

1677
01:01:44,150 --> 01:01:41,359
yeah you know

1678
01:01:46,870 --> 01:01:44,160
yeah yeah that that is a deep one and

1679
01:01:47,990 --> 01:01:46,880
there there's a lot that went on at that

1680
01:01:50,950 --> 01:01:48,000
time

1681
01:01:52,710 --> 01:01:50,960
uh as far as and i plan on getting into

1682
01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:52,720
that with them and i've found up found

1683
01:01:57,750 --> 01:01:55,200
some a timeline of things that have

1684
01:01:59,829 --> 01:01:57,760
happened uh during that time but it all

1685
01:02:00,789 --> 01:01:59,839
also revolves around

1686
01:02:10,710 --> 01:02:00,799
um

1687
01:02:12,230 --> 01:02:10,720
through a couple more of these chat

1688
01:02:13,270 --> 01:02:12,240
questions before we get off today i know

1689
01:02:15,510 --> 01:02:13,280
you're getting yeah

1690
01:02:17,990 --> 01:02:15,520
into your time here right so yeah go

1691
01:02:20,549 --> 01:02:18,000
ahead uh if you want to pick one

1692
01:02:22,789 --> 01:02:20,559
right now i'm looking for my

1693
01:02:24,309 --> 01:02:22,799
uh thing on the website where that

1694
01:02:26,150 --> 01:02:24,319
document came from so i can share it

1695
01:02:27,510 --> 01:02:26,160
with people

1696
01:02:30,230 --> 01:02:27,520
yeah

1697
01:02:32,309 --> 01:02:30,240
oh robert's got another good here

1698
01:02:34,069 --> 01:02:32,319
was lieutenant frank gorman chasing a

1699
01:02:34,950 --> 01:02:34,079
russian craft yeah we could just you

1700
01:02:36,549 --> 01:02:34,960
know

1701
01:02:39,589 --> 01:02:36,559
they could just like go straight for the

1702
01:02:41,190 --> 01:02:39,599
weeds you know yes this goes super deep

1703
01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:41,200
now there's a

1704
01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:42,640
there's a case

1705
01:02:47,589 --> 01:02:44,400
in louisiana

1706
01:02:52,069 --> 01:02:49,910
july 12th

1707
01:02:53,430 --> 01:02:52,079
we got two witnesses red light green

1708
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:53,440
light

1709
01:02:57,349 --> 01:02:55,330
came and went what do you know

1710
01:02:58,710 --> 01:02:57,359
[Laughter]

1711
01:02:59,670 --> 01:02:58,720
all right sir

1712
01:03:04,470 --> 01:02:59,680
all right

1713
01:03:06,230 --> 01:03:04,480
yes congressman king

1714
01:03:08,309 --> 01:03:06,240
all right we're going to do two hours on

1715
01:03:11,510 --> 01:03:08,319
the lubbock lights we're going to do all

1716
01:03:15,670 --> 01:03:13,190
mr rash is going to take over and we're

1717
01:03:18,309 --> 01:03:15,680
doing all dc 1952

1718
01:03:21,510 --> 01:03:18,319
yeah until you can explain each sighting

1719
01:03:23,510 --> 01:03:21,520
and what went wrong with each radar unit

1720
01:03:25,510 --> 01:03:23,520
i like how our congress both of our

1721
01:03:27,510 --> 01:03:25,520
congressman voices is

1722
01:03:29,270 --> 01:03:27,520
like it's like swaying towards colonel

1723
01:03:31,029 --> 01:03:29,280
sanders both of us just basically want

1724
01:03:31,829 --> 01:03:31,039
to be colonel sanders when we're doing

1725
01:03:32,870 --> 01:03:31,839
this

1726
01:03:33,829 --> 01:03:32,880
all right

1727
01:03:39,670 --> 01:03:33,839
listen

1728
01:03:43,270 --> 01:03:39,680
are these the devil or not

1729
01:03:44,789 --> 01:03:43,280
oh yeah exactly oh yeah another one that

1730
01:03:46,549 --> 01:03:44,799
i would do if i were to just like

1731
01:03:48,549 --> 01:03:46,559
completely take over for this if it

1732
01:03:50,309 --> 01:03:48,559
wasn't to be roswell maybe the battle of

1733
01:03:52,390 --> 01:03:50,319
la that's but that's just because i love

1734
01:03:54,470 --> 01:03:52,400
hearing about it i think it's fun

1735
01:03:56,309 --> 01:03:54,480
yeah well just uh we'll just send robert

1736
01:03:57,349 --> 01:03:56,319
to these things he's got another great

1737
01:03:59,910 --> 01:03:57,359
question

1738
01:04:05,589 --> 01:03:59,920
did my aunt jolene get taken by a

1739
01:04:08,230 --> 01:04:06,549
that

1740
01:04:09,510 --> 01:04:08,240
oh you're muted for yeah you got to get

1741
01:04:10,789 --> 01:04:09,520
another

1742
01:04:13,430 --> 01:04:10,799
oh man

1743
01:04:15,750 --> 01:04:13,440
yep so yeah and we could do the the

1744
01:04:17,510 --> 01:04:15,760
jelly birds we could ask jelly birds why

1745
01:04:19,670 --> 01:04:17,520
does sean turn into a humble southern

1746
01:04:21,109 --> 01:04:19,680
lawyer when he phrases questions now i

1747
01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:21,119
would suggest

1748
01:04:25,750 --> 01:04:24,000
julie that perhaps when he's adopting

1749
01:04:27,349 --> 01:04:25,760
the phraseology of a congressman he's

1750
01:04:29,829 --> 01:04:27,359
not so humble

1751
01:04:32,230 --> 01:04:29,839
within within there that could be the

1752
01:04:35,029 --> 01:04:32,240
way to get sean to not be humble is to

1753
01:04:37,589 --> 01:04:35,039
now sir i'm i'm not trying to riley up

1754
01:04:39,910 --> 01:04:37,599
here sir all right but

1755
01:04:41,589 --> 01:04:39,920
it's time we get down to the brass text

1756
01:04:43,670 --> 01:04:41,599
for the american people

1757
01:04:45,109 --> 01:04:43,680
yeah that's right

1758
01:04:46,630 --> 01:04:45,119
let's talk about transparency and then

1759
01:04:47,430 --> 01:04:46,640
you then you bang on your hand on the

1760
01:04:49,109 --> 01:04:47,440
table

1761
01:04:50,789 --> 01:04:49,119
well i'm just i'm just so happy to see

1762
01:04:52,390 --> 01:04:50,799
so many wonderful people in the chat i

1763
01:04:55,270 --> 01:04:52,400
think that that's yeah me too one of the

1764
01:04:56,710 --> 01:04:55,280
most important things to see here um i

1765
01:04:58,950 --> 01:04:56,720
am so happy that we've been having this

1766
01:05:01,349 --> 01:04:58,960
conversation today i think it's great um

1767
01:05:03,270 --> 01:05:01,359
it's wonderful to see people joining in

1768
01:05:04,710 --> 01:05:03,280
and um i really

1769
01:05:06,950 --> 01:05:04,720
i really appreciate

1770
01:05:09,190 --> 01:05:06,960
that oh hey one thing to talk about is

1771
01:05:10,390 --> 01:05:09,200
that uh it turns out um

1772
01:05:11,750 --> 01:05:10,400
folks don't know this we didn't really

1773
01:05:13,430 --> 01:05:11,760
announce this do you want to talk about

1774
01:05:15,750 --> 01:05:13,440
this this um how are we going to live

1775
01:05:17,589 --> 01:05:15,760
stream the congressional agency oh right

1776
01:05:18,950 --> 01:05:17,599
right right on next tuesday

1777
01:05:23,829 --> 01:05:18,960
i am

1778
01:05:26,470 --> 01:05:23,839
congressional hearings on tuesday

1779
01:05:27,510 --> 01:05:26,480
at 9 00 a.m central standard time uh

1780
01:05:29,349 --> 01:05:27,520
we're going to have vinnie from

1781
01:05:31,349 --> 01:05:29,359
disclosure team

1782
01:05:32,950 --> 01:05:31,359
uh we're going to have signal that ufo

1783
01:05:35,589 --> 01:05:32,960
podcast i think we're going to have

1784
01:05:37,510 --> 01:05:35,599
quantum witch priscilla yourself

1785
01:05:40,150 --> 01:05:37,520
maybe graeme rendell

1786
01:05:41,430 --> 01:05:40,160
it's going to be a party right we're not

1787
01:05:45,430 --> 01:05:41,440
going to talk

1788
01:05:48,069 --> 01:05:45,440
over the hearings if we do it has to be

1789
01:05:49,829 --> 01:05:48,079
just carefully crafted and

1790
01:05:53,510 --> 01:05:49,839
as funny as mystery science theater

1791
01:05:56,069 --> 01:05:53,520
3000. if not you get kicked out

1792
01:05:57,750 --> 01:05:56,079
so absolutely and we'll definitely

1793
01:05:59,910 --> 01:05:57,760
well it'll definitely we'll we'll

1794
01:06:01,829 --> 01:05:59,920
definitely have some room to be over in

1795
01:06:03,510 --> 01:06:01,839
the chat where we can comment and we'll

1796
01:06:04,710 --> 01:06:03,520
also definitely be doing some i'm sure

1797
01:06:07,829 --> 01:06:04,720
that we'll definitely be doing some

1798
01:06:09,829 --> 01:06:07,839
follow-up conversation as as we watch

1799
01:06:11,589 --> 01:06:09,839
you know and i think that'll be really

1800
01:06:13,029 --> 01:06:11,599
important so we'll be sitting here with

1801
01:06:14,950 --> 01:06:13,039
our notepads and we'll be having a great

1802
01:06:16,470 --> 01:06:14,960
time with that that's on tuesday and

1803
01:06:18,309 --> 01:06:16,480
also i'm going to be joining you on

1804
01:06:20,789 --> 01:06:18,319
friday um we're going to be talking to

1805
01:06:23,510 --> 01:06:20,799
katie howland um correct

1806
01:06:25,349 --> 01:06:23,520
a great new friend recent friends

1807
01:06:27,750 --> 01:06:25,359
yeah she she's become

1808
01:06:29,510 --> 01:06:27,760
somewhat of a warrior on ufo twitter

1809
01:06:30,470 --> 01:06:29,520
really um

1810
01:06:34,230 --> 01:06:30,480
she's

1811
01:06:35,750 --> 01:06:34,240
bringing a great attitude positive

1812
01:06:37,990 --> 01:06:35,760
attitude and she's had some of her own

1813
01:06:39,910 --> 01:06:38,000
uh paranormal experiences so we're gonna

1814
01:06:40,789 --> 01:06:39,920
touch on that a little bit and also just

1815
01:06:43,349 --> 01:06:40,799
um

1816
01:06:46,069 --> 01:06:43,359
you know talk about uh what motivates

1817
01:06:49,510 --> 01:06:46,079
her and what brought her to ufo twitter

1818
01:06:51,910 --> 01:06:49,520
to to you know speak about this topic so

1819
01:06:54,390 --> 01:06:51,920
yeah also a lot so she's spent much of

1820
01:06:56,950 --> 01:06:54,400
her career in dc so

1821
01:06:58,309 --> 01:06:56,960
yeah and she's and she's she's worked in

1822
01:07:00,470 --> 01:06:58,319
politics so it'll be it would be

1823
01:07:02,549 --> 01:07:00,480
interesting to hear her take on

1824
01:07:05,630 --> 01:07:02,559
on is she is

1825
01:07:07,910 --> 01:07:05,640
like an immediate immune epidemiologist

1826
01:07:09,589 --> 01:07:07,920
epidemiologist yeah so i think she's got

1827
01:07:13,270 --> 01:07:09,599
a master's in public health if i'm not

1828
01:07:15,109 --> 01:07:13,280
mistaken so yeah so so again i'll be

1829
01:07:16,230 --> 01:07:15,119
surrounded by people that are smarter

1830
01:07:18,470 --> 01:07:16,240
than me

1831
01:07:18,700 --> 01:07:18,480
so and so will i

1832
01:07:20,789 --> 01:07:18,710
so

1833
01:07:23,510 --> 01:07:20,799
[Laughter]

1834
01:07:25,670 --> 01:07:23,520
so it'll be super fun oh don't you now

1835
01:07:27,430 --> 01:07:25,680
don't you go bs and me son

1836
01:07:28,950 --> 01:07:27,440
all right

1837
01:07:30,950 --> 01:07:28,960
i'm gonna work on that accent before

1838
01:07:33,109 --> 01:07:30,960
next tuesday i've got some

1839
01:07:35,029 --> 01:07:33,119
there's definitely room for growth i've

1840
01:07:38,150 --> 01:07:35,039
got it i've got it from watching all

1841
01:07:40,390 --> 01:07:38,160
these uh murder shows with my wife like

1842
01:07:42,870 --> 01:07:40,400
she just loves the murder shows can't

1843
01:07:45,109 --> 01:07:42,880
sleep unless there's a forensic files on

1844
01:07:46,150 --> 01:07:45,119
and i feel like every witness is

1845
01:07:48,230 --> 01:07:46,160
southern

1846
01:07:51,270 --> 01:07:48,240
and says i don't know i turned around

1847
01:07:54,390 --> 01:07:52,470
yeah

1848
01:07:56,630 --> 01:07:54,400
our good friend kirsten blackburn is the

1849
01:07:58,549 --> 01:07:56,640
same way she's she can't she it doesn't

1850
01:08:00,710 --> 01:07:58,559
seem like she can take a nap without

1851
01:08:02,710 --> 01:08:00,720
either either listening to a podcast

1852
01:08:05,190 --> 01:08:02,720
about some serial murder event or like a

1853
01:08:06,309 --> 01:08:05,200
cult and so yeah

1854
01:08:09,190 --> 01:08:06,319
very similar

1855
01:08:11,109 --> 01:08:09,200
we'll see you on friday at 2 central

1856
01:08:13,109 --> 01:08:11,119
after that we'll do the the live

1857
01:08:15,750 --> 01:08:13,119
congressional hearing thing uh tuesday

1858
01:08:18,070 --> 01:08:15,760
at 9 00 a.m central it's gonna be

1859
01:08:21,189 --> 01:08:18,080
awesome looking forward to that

1860
01:08:22,870 --> 01:08:21,199
uh we'll bring coffee digital espresso

1861
01:08:24,950 --> 01:08:22,880
anything else

1862
01:08:26,789 --> 01:08:24,960
i i just want to say thanks to everybody

1863
01:08:29,349 --> 01:08:26,799
in the chat thanks to everybody watching

1864
01:08:31,430 --> 01:08:29,359
now and in the future i i really

1865
01:08:32,630 --> 01:08:31,440
appreciate doing this with you sean

1866
01:08:35,430 --> 01:08:32,640
thank you sean

1867
01:08:36,789 --> 01:08:35,440
this is uh i always look forward to it

1868
01:08:38,630 --> 01:08:36,799
me as well

1869
01:08:39,590 --> 01:08:38,640
and you know i just realized i realized

1870
01:08:41,349 --> 01:08:39,600
the other day in that best of

1871
01:08:43,189 --> 01:08:41,359
conversation that best of clip show that

1872
01:08:44,550 --> 01:08:43,199
you did i was like oh my gosh it's six

1873
01:08:46,789 --> 01:08:44,560
months now that that we've been doing

1874
01:08:49,349 --> 01:08:46,799
this together and i just think it's it's

1875
01:08:50,789 --> 01:08:49,359
amazing man yeah we just yeah and it

1876
01:08:52,390 --> 01:08:50,799
gets more fun by the week it was

1877
01:08:54,149 --> 01:08:52,400
interesting seeing that that's the clip

1878
01:08:56,870 --> 01:08:54,159
where we first actually met

1879
01:08:59,189 --> 01:08:56,880
with ufo john oh with you

1880
01:09:01,669 --> 01:08:59,199
yeah yeah that was the very day that was

1881
01:09:03,910 --> 01:09:01,679
like three hours after ralph's article

1882
01:09:08,070 --> 01:09:03,920
came out that kind of featured that

1883
01:09:12,390 --> 01:09:09,990
it's amazing yeah seems like so much

1884
01:09:14,470 --> 01:09:12,400
more time is best than that but

1885
01:09:16,309 --> 01:09:14,480
it yeah like i just feel like i know you

1886
01:09:17,510 --> 01:09:16,319
were like uh

1887
01:09:20,309 --> 01:09:17,520
really well in

1888
01:09:22,550 --> 01:09:20,319
a good way like like a bro and it might

1889
01:09:24,470 --> 01:09:22,560
not be that way if if it was in person

1890
01:09:26,309 --> 01:09:24,480
right because you hang out maybe once a

1891
01:09:27,829 --> 01:09:26,319
month or something

1892
01:09:29,110 --> 01:09:27,839
yeah yeah i mean the interesting thing

1893
01:09:30,870 --> 01:09:29,120
to think about

1894
01:09:32,309 --> 01:09:30,880
it's like band practice you know it's

1895
01:09:34,070 --> 01:09:32,319
like that's why you got to be in a band

1896
01:09:35,669 --> 01:09:34,080
with people that you like because it's

1897
01:09:37,269 --> 01:09:35,679
it just makes it a great excuse to get

1898
01:09:38,630 --> 01:09:37,279
together and then

1899
01:09:40,789 --> 01:09:38,640
and then the work just kind of like

1900
01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:40,799
falls right into play right you make the

1901
01:09:43,990 --> 01:09:43,120
magic yep absolutely we're making the

1902
01:09:45,910 --> 01:09:44,000
magic

1903
01:09:46,789 --> 01:09:45,920
so thank you sir thanks everybody in the

1904
01:09:48,709 --> 01:09:46,799
chat

1905
01:09:50,630 --> 01:09:48,719
i appreciate it we'll see you soon stay

1906
01:09:51,430 --> 01:09:50,640
positive congressional hearings coming

1907
01:09:53,590 --> 01:09:51,440
up

1908
01:09:55,669 --> 01:09:53,600
uh like the video subscribe share it if

1909
01:10:02,580 --> 01:09:55,679
you haven't and we'll see you next time